Madame, the quote, “Free inquiry on a free platform is the only practice that distinguishes a free from a slave society,” is not quite true. The true defining characteristic that distinguishes a free from a slave society is the recognition, respect, and practice of the right to bear arms. Arms are the badge of a citizen. Disarmament is the shame of slaves.
Otherwise, you hit another home run. I do believe that English is a second language for Chandra. Bless her heart.
An under-explored factor in the free speech discussion is the opportunity cost of preventing certain ideas to be spoken. (For those not familiar, opportunity cost is an economic term that attempts to quantify the cost of not investing in a particular opportunity -- or how much benefit did you give up by not pursuing something.) In the free speech argument, the opportunity cost of shutting down certain speech can be viewed as what have we lost by not having the chance to view evil or potentially harmful ideas and acts. If we destroy Civil War general statues in an attempt to remove all references to slavery, how will future generations even know that slavery existed? If they don't know about it, won't they be more susceptible to it in the future?
This concept is a main tenet in your postings and I thank you for addressing it so well.
And, for those who WOULD 'censor and prevent' what they consider to be evil speech: and to call up just a few examples by name, *IF* the govt and media and tech had BEEN allowed to censor and prevent, as they tried -- and TRY -- ever-so-hard to do, ANY discussion, publication, protesting, "dissenter" conferences, the occasional appearance of various people with the backgrounds -- and LICENCESES (requiring the education and experiences to earn such) to speak authoritatively ON such "deemed unworthy" topics -- we would not yet KNOW that:
Gulf of Tonkin
"Remember the Maine!"
weapons of mass destruction
"took the babies out of the incubators and left them to die on the cold floor"
don't forget Nuland et al.'s "not one inch eastward" TREATY that has been OUTED as 100% LIE "so we/the Ukrainians (we had JUST inflicted a 'color revolution' on) could RE-ARM against Russia (or did your harassers just MISS THAT one?!)
WERE ALL FALSE!!
And that's before we get to:
"safe and effective"
92% effective
take the shot you WON'T get sick
take the shot you wont' get hospitalized
take the shot you won't die!
just two weeks to slow the curve
Margaret Anna Alice, somewhere in your 'stack, you have WRITTEN a great listing their lies. These ... whiners ... would have us ALL submit to whatever manipulation and lying the govt WISH to inflict -- and just play blind NPC in our own lives!
We WILL. NOT. COMPLY. And if reading stuff that hurts is a problem; STOP READING it!
This thread is wonderful. I can't remember when I subscribed but your keen, clear and reasoned prose keeps showing up in my inbox and I keep smiling and nodding my head, Yes!
(Yikes, I think like H.L. Mencken, feel like that poem by W. B. Yeats and now I sound like Molly Bloom. Oh my....)
Nice going on all fronts M....A. However,I would like to interject at various moments in your chats. (Re: Mr. Ferguson's 2nd to last comment) I have a "clue" for Mr.Ferguson. It takes the form of the following suggestion to the major media. Rather than waste space, time and money covering Trump's ludicrous escapades, instead cover the incredibly serious and alarming harm being done by big pharma's bioweapons around the globe. For Ms. Chardy, a self-proclaimed champion of civil rights? Civil rights would not even exist as a concept ( never mind being implemented) without first amendment rights ensured by the Bill of Rights. To Mr. James: Indeed, the doctors who have taken bribes and kickbacks ( as noted in DOJ prosecutions of Pfizer for example) should be "stripped of their licenses" right away:) The problem with this approach for the pro-vax community , and you, as I am sure you are a member, would be that there would be no doctors left to push the needles. Mr. Mizener is too confused and confusing to warrant a meaningful response.
A balanced solution to freedom of speech v. freedom of/to silence:
They want to make people to trust, accept and comply to Government spying and censorship because of malinformation is against their own good. Yet, we’ve seen how the definition of “the science”, “the consensus”, hate-speech or dangerous-speech has been weaponized to prosecute truth. It’s not even a matter of a fuzzy definition subject to a debatable interpretation, but that even a detailed unequivocal definition is also used as excuse to break the law without consequences to the criminal on power. Even SPAM rules have been used to block non-commercial life-saving information.
For this reason, blocking and muting should be illegal, especially blocking links, not even malware links. We’ve seen how life-saving links to PDFs on Academia.edu have been maliciously classified as malware in 3 of the malware databases used by internet servers and antivirus to block them.
In sum, it should be illegal:
• Blocking or muting information or users.
• Deplatforming, denial of service (especially financial), denial of access to full service, over-charges (paypal), etc. Examples:
◦ Debanking the Canadian Freedom Truckers.
◦ Firing someone for denouncing the Gaza genocide of 10 thousand children.
• Any algorithmic modification of search results (except content that paid to be up-ranked, visibly classified as such).
• The practice of classifying some of the comments in a different bottom section (“irrelevant”, “redundant”, “foul language”, “medically dangerous”, “hate”, “violent”, “blasphemy”, etc.)
• Automatic Email filtering into a different folder: we’ve seen how legitimate emails have been sent to the SPAM box of the known recipient.
• Restricting the number of recipients: this has been used to block effective COVID cures
• Shadow banning
• Unpaid propaganda (e.g. suggestion to follow Bill Gates or any other tyrant)
◦ Students, eachers/professors (n.b. respectfully questioning what is taught)
◦ Nobody has the right to strip doctors of their licenses: once given, it’s for a lifetime. Licences should only be provided by health associations (never by governments): groups of doctors, no matter which school, let the people decide for themselves after receiving transparent information of the medical training in that association.
• Collusion/cartelization of media or information outlets. Real ownership of media/social media corporations up to physical people and decision-power matrix should be public.
The only acceptable tools should be:
• There should be an open source standard for all algorithmic content control, and nothing else could be used.
• A number of random people should decide if something violates the violence clause. Never a centralized authority. Appeal to sencond and third instances should always be available. All the process should be open to public scrutiny.
• Allow users to manually (not enabling algorithmic solutions depending on organized entities) to block/blacklist senders, websites, etc.
• Warning overlay, which could be erased with 1 click. One warning could include “you are not in the sender contact list, self-identified as NN, with X degrees of separation in your social network”.
• For malware or SPAM, a picture and a text-only page of the landing site should be provided for the user to judge.
• Detection, warning and pre-banning of a duplicate comment under the same link/group before posting (like Breitbart and Gab.com wisely do). Duplicate control in different groups should not be blocked (freedom of speech means freedom to reach).
• User (not algorithmic) up voting unmoderated comments (never down-voting). Grant the possibility to re-order a list from bottom up and to make advanced boolean searches, even download all the content for private search.
• Adding a scroll-down searchable overlay, with most-voted not-algorithm user-recommendations (not only 1, like X/Twitter).
• Email tagging
• Let the user know who/what his network or topic/sub-groups are seeing/following
In sum, let the users decide. And even if the mass is wrong, at least, with little effort, one could find truth buried at the bottom of garbage.
I'm anti-racist, anti-communist, anti-fascist, anti-nazi and anti-financialist. I’ve never wasted my precious time reading garbage like:
- Mein Kampf
- Das Kapital
- The Communist Manifesto
A quick search on Google, didn't submit any quote from those sources inciting physical violence or genocide, though Hitler and Marx were both pro-abortion. Note: if you find quotes, please share by answering this.
Why should they be censored no matter how much I or anyone could despise them? Even an abortionist should have the right to access a platform, but any message inciting violence should be blocked, not his e-persona.
The Genocide convention bans genocide incitement. Possibly, incitement to dehumanization/de-humanrightization/humanrights-inequality, involving physical harm/violence/murder to human beings, even self-harm like suicide, is the only legitimate limit to free-speech. 3 Notice that the following doesn’t pass the litmus test:
- nudged/forced inyections/treatments/medicine, especially if they harm the unborn during pregnancy
- abortion
- artificial insemination
- euthanasia
- pedophilia
- embryionic stem cell research
- needless amputation, sexual mutilation, transitioning, especially against minors
Others abide by Brandenburg v. Ohio: speech that “is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.” The problem with that is that the law might be unjust. So questioning an unjust law (e.g. compulsory drafting for an unjust war), might be considered by the tyrant as “inciting to break the law”.
No Free Speech without Reach. We need a #FreeReach law urgently!
9/11: two "planes", yet the third tower (WTC7) imploded, free falling on its footprint like in a controlled demolition. It was out of reach, and all 7 World Trade Center towers needed to be rebuilt, not the closer towers not belonging to World Trade Center... and the “owner” took an insurance policy for the WTC against terrorism, just months before, when no one was taking them … he didn’t show up for work precisely on 9/11 … just as his 2 grown up siblings (they never skipped work before). The inside information about the FUTURE 9/11 event helped masons make trillions by shorting the stock exchange: the records were deleted by the SEC so they wouldn't be prosecuted !!!
Please watch all of this! Your life depends on it, because there's a plan to murder 95% of the global population by 2050… written on the masonic Georgia guide-stones: “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 … ”:
- J6: The false flag operation of the fake riot was planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!! The same mason-plot was copy-pasted to disband the insurrection against the stolen elections in Brazil! All intel agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA) were founded by masons and are run by them for their own nefarious goals.
- At least since the 90s, vaccines are weaponized to reduce the population, for example:
1. Adding hCG to infertilize women: lab detected in 30 countries
2. Overpassing the FDA 10 ng limit to human DNA “contamination” by 2000%, thus causing neuro-damage (autism, asperger, tics, dyslexia in 29% of kids, etc.) and childhood cancer epidemic (n.b. leukemia, non-Hodgkin’s lymphomas)
Good stuff. I am sorry I don't read you every time. You are teaching/preaching to the choir as it were. I do subscribe because your heartfelt thoughts need to be shared with all (or as many as possible).
You are brave to engage with these short-sighted people who are so consumed with hate. It is a valuable exercise to see what the other side is thinking, but it is also demoralizing to see the state of the world. It must be emotionally taxing for you to do this. Maybe a few misguided souls will read what you wrote and change their opinion, but I don't have high hopes for that. These beliefs are rooted in a religious framework, and seem to be immune to reason.
I love all of the quotes you employ. I hope to read They Thought They Were Free soon. Thank you for your valuable work in this fight!
Thank you so much for alerting me, Janet! I only wish they had included credit and a link to my Anatomy of a Philanthropath series (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-philanthropath-dreams) for context. I added a comment with links to the series, but it has to go through moderation.
Haha, thanks, Janet! Getting on ZeroHedge is like lightning striking because they have such a massive audience, so it is unfortunate the links weren't included (the author, Jim, should know better, since he posted the original series when it was first published 😆).
Madame, the quote, “Free inquiry on a free platform is the only practice that distinguishes a free from a slave society,” is not quite true. The true defining characteristic that distinguishes a free from a slave society is the recognition, respect, and practice of the right to bear arms. Arms are the badge of a citizen. Disarmament is the shame of slaves.
Otherwise, you hit another home run. I do believe that English is a second language for Chandra. Bless her heart.
Excellent work, MAA!
An under-explored factor in the free speech discussion is the opportunity cost of preventing certain ideas to be spoken. (For those not familiar, opportunity cost is an economic term that attempts to quantify the cost of not investing in a particular opportunity -- or how much benefit did you give up by not pursuing something.) In the free speech argument, the opportunity cost of shutting down certain speech can be viewed as what have we lost by not having the chance to view evil or potentially harmful ideas and acts. If we destroy Civil War general statues in an attempt to remove all references to slavery, how will future generations even know that slavery existed? If they don't know about it, won't they be more susceptible to it in the future?
This concept is a main tenet in your postings and I thank you for addressing it so well.
And, for those who WOULD 'censor and prevent' what they consider to be evil speech: and to call up just a few examples by name, *IF* the govt and media and tech had BEEN allowed to censor and prevent, as they tried -- and TRY -- ever-so-hard to do, ANY discussion, publication, protesting, "dissenter" conferences, the occasional appearance of various people with the backgrounds -- and LICENCESES (requiring the education and experiences to earn such) to speak authoritatively ON such "deemed unworthy" topics -- we would not yet KNOW that:
Gulf of Tonkin
"Remember the Maine!"
weapons of mass destruction
"took the babies out of the incubators and left them to die on the cold floor"
don't forget Nuland et al.'s "not one inch eastward" TREATY that has been OUTED as 100% LIE "so we/the Ukrainians (we had JUST inflicted a 'color revolution' on) could RE-ARM against Russia (or did your harassers just MISS THAT one?!)
WERE ALL FALSE!!
And that's before we get to:
"safe and effective"
92% effective
take the shot you WON'T get sick
take the shot you wont' get hospitalized
take the shot you won't die!
just two weeks to slow the curve
Margaret Anna Alice, somewhere in your 'stack, you have WRITTEN a great listing their lies. These ... whiners ... would have us ALL submit to whatever manipulation and lying the govt WISH to inflict -- and just play blind NPC in our own lives!
We WILL. NOT. COMPLY. And if reading stuff that hurts is a problem; STOP READING it!
Let's not forget Nuland's "F**K the EU" captured phone comment way back when.
The analogy to "opportunity cost"is nearly perfect! It really brings the argument into rather succinct focus. Thanks Cynicon!
What a wonderfully informative comment, Cynicon—thank you for giving a name to what I sensed intuitively!
This thread is wonderful. I can't remember when I subscribed but your keen, clear and reasoned prose keeps showing up in my inbox and I keep smiling and nodding my head, Yes!
(Yikes, I think like H.L. Mencken, feel like that poem by W. B. Yeats and now I sound like Molly Bloom. Oh my....)
Nice going on all fronts M....A. However,I would like to interject at various moments in your chats. (Re: Mr. Ferguson's 2nd to last comment) I have a "clue" for Mr.Ferguson. It takes the form of the following suggestion to the major media. Rather than waste space, time and money covering Trump's ludicrous escapades, instead cover the incredibly serious and alarming harm being done by big pharma's bioweapons around the globe. For Ms. Chardy, a self-proclaimed champion of civil rights? Civil rights would not even exist as a concept ( never mind being implemented) without first amendment rights ensured by the Bill of Rights. To Mr. James: Indeed, the doctors who have taken bribes and kickbacks ( as noted in DOJ prosecutions of Pfizer for example) should be "stripped of their licenses" right away:) The problem with this approach for the pro-vax community , and you, as I am sure you are a member, would be that there would be no doctors left to push the needles. Mr. Mizener is too confused and confusing to warrant a meaningful response.
This is yet another Satanic inversion. Remember:
1) If the bad guys were really in control, you would already be dead.
2) Believe nothing they say. Do nothing they tell you to do.
3) You don’t wake people up… You go find the others.
4) You can’t win a war unless you know who the enemy is.
5) They wouldn't be attacking you so hard if there wasn't something holy inside you.
https://inverttheinversion.substack.com/p/ch-1-lies
A balanced solution to freedom of speech v. freedom of/to silence:
They want to make people to trust, accept and comply to Government spying and censorship because of malinformation is against their own good. Yet, we’ve seen how the definition of “the science”, “the consensus”, hate-speech or dangerous-speech has been weaponized to prosecute truth. It’s not even a matter of a fuzzy definition subject to a debatable interpretation, but that even a detailed unequivocal definition is also used as excuse to break the law without consequences to the criminal on power. Even SPAM rules have been used to block non-commercial life-saving information.
For this reason, blocking and muting should be illegal, especially blocking links, not even malware links. We’ve seen how life-saving links to PDFs on Academia.edu have been maliciously classified as malware in 3 of the malware databases used by internet servers and antivirus to block them.
In sum, it should be illegal:
• Blocking or muting information or users.
• Deplatforming, denial of service (especially financial), denial of access to full service, over-charges (paypal), etc. Examples:
◦ Debanking the Canadian Freedom Truckers.
◦ Firing someone for denouncing the Gaza genocide of 10 thousand children.
• Any algorithmic modification of search results (except content that paid to be up-ranked, visibly classified as such).
• The practice of classifying some of the comments in a different bottom section (“irrelevant”, “redundant”, “foul language”, “medically dangerous”, “hate”, “violent”, “blasphemy”, etc.)
• Automatic Email filtering into a different folder: we’ve seen how legitimate emails have been sent to the SPAM box of the known recipient.
• Restricting the number of recipients: this has been used to block effective COVID cures
• Shadow banning
• Unpaid propaganda (e.g. suggestion to follow Bill Gates or any other tyrant)
• Hide the algorithms from public scrutiny
• Surveillance
• Ideological incentives/disincentives:
◦ Stake holder: employee, supplier, stock-holders (n.b. media).
◦ Students, eachers/professors (n.b. respectfully questioning what is taught)
◦ Nobody has the right to strip doctors of their licenses: once given, it’s for a lifetime. Licences should only be provided by health associations (never by governments): groups of doctors, no matter which school, let the people decide for themselves after receiving transparent information of the medical training in that association.
• Collusion/cartelization of media or information outlets. Real ownership of media/social media corporations up to physical people and decision-power matrix should be public.
The only acceptable tools should be:
• There should be an open source standard for all algorithmic content control, and nothing else could be used.
• A number of random people should decide if something violates the violence clause. Never a centralized authority. Appeal to sencond and third instances should always be available. All the process should be open to public scrutiny.
• Allow users to manually (not enabling algorithmic solutions depending on organized entities) to block/blacklist senders, websites, etc.
• Warning overlay, which could be erased with 1 click. One warning could include “you are not in the sender contact list, self-identified as NN, with X degrees of separation in your social network”.
• For malware or SPAM, a picture and a text-only page of the landing site should be provided for the user to judge.
• Detection, warning and pre-banning of a duplicate comment under the same link/group before posting (like Breitbart and Gab.com wisely do). Duplicate control in different groups should not be blocked (freedom of speech means freedom to reach).
• User (not algorithmic) up voting unmoderated comments (never down-voting). Grant the possibility to re-order a list from bottom up and to make advanced boolean searches, even download all the content for private search.
• Adding a scroll-down searchable overlay, with most-voted not-algorithm user-recommendations (not only 1, like X/Twitter).
• Email tagging
• Let the user know who/what his network or topic/sub-groups are seeing/following
In sum, let the users decide. And even if the mass is wrong, at least, with little effort, one could find truth buried at the bottom of garbage.
I'm anti-racist, anti-communist, anti-fascist, anti-nazi and anti-financialist. I’ve never wasted my precious time reading garbage like:
- Mein Kampf
- Das Kapital
- The Communist Manifesto
A quick search on Google, didn't submit any quote from those sources inciting physical violence or genocide, though Hitler and Marx were both pro-abortion. Note: if you find quotes, please share by answering this.
Why should they be censored no matter how much I or anyone could despise them? Even an abortionist should have the right to access a platform, but any message inciting violence should be blocked, not his e-persona.
The Genocide convention bans genocide incitement. Possibly, incitement to dehumanization/de-humanrightization/humanrights-inequality, involving physical harm/violence/murder to human beings, even self-harm like suicide, is the only legitimate limit to free-speech. 3 Notice that the following doesn’t pass the litmus test:
- nudged/forced inyections/treatments/medicine, especially if they harm the unborn during pregnancy
- abortion
- artificial insemination
- euthanasia
- pedophilia
- embryionic stem cell research
- needless amputation, sexual mutilation, transitioning, especially against minors
Others abide by Brandenburg v. Ohio: speech that “is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.” The problem with that is that the law might be unjust. So questioning an unjust law (e.g. compulsory drafting for an unjust war), might be considered by the tyrant as “inciting to break the law”.
No Free Speech without Reach. We need a #FreeReach law urgently!
http://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/no-free-speech-without-reach
A Republic or a Democracy? Are we crazy to accept demo-crazy?
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/democracy-democrazy
How about REAL democracy: townhall republican democracy?
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/reinventing-democracy
Wake up sleepy:
9/11: two "planes", yet the third tower (WTC7) imploded, free falling on its footprint like in a controlled demolition. It was out of reach, and all 7 World Trade Center towers needed to be rebuilt, not the closer towers not belonging to World Trade Center... and the “owner” took an insurance policy for the WTC against terrorism, just months before, when no one was taking them … he didn’t show up for work precisely on 9/11 … just as his 2 grown up siblings (they never skipped work before). The inside information about the FUTURE 9/11 event helped masons make trillions by shorting the stock exchange: the records were deleted by the SEC so they wouldn't be prosecuted !!!
Watch amazing short and more evidence here:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/911-2-planes-3-towers
Please watch all of this! Your life depends on it, because there's a plan to murder 95% of the global population by 2050… written on the masonic Georgia guide-stones: “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 … ”:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depopulation-or-extermination
- J6: The false flag operation of the fake riot was planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!! The same mason-plot was copy-pasted to disband the insurrection against the stolen elections in Brazil! All intel agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA) were founded by masons and are run by them for their own nefarious goals.
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/j6-what-you-need-to-know
It's such a mason manual that they organized the same J6 play in Brazil when it was proven that the voting machines owned by mason Soros, were rigged:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-2020-american-coup
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/dominion-over-us
- At least since the 90s, vaccines are weaponized to reduce the population, for example:
1. Adding hCG to infertilize women: lab detected in 30 countries
2. Overpassing the FDA 10 ng limit to human DNA “contamination” by 2000%, thus causing neuro-damage (autism, asperger, tics, dyslexia in 29% of kids, etc.) and childhood cancer epidemic (n.b. leukemia, non-Hodgkin’s lymphomas)
Check soundchoice.org or videos at bottom after this page:
100 wake-up videos:
(don't miss the 1st one, 10 min at 2x, an amazing tool to start a discussion):
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/wake-up-videos
- COVID was designed as a primer for even more lethal COVID haccines:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-real-covid-timeline
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/not-vaccine-not-gene-therapy-just
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/what-do-bioweapons-have-to-do-with
- You’ll go nowhere and you’ll be happy:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/2050-youll-go-nowhere-and-youll-be
My contribution to the debate.
I think it is thorough, my wife says it's tedious ....
https://zorkthehun.substack.com/p/nazis-are-the-least-of-our-problems
Good day MAA,
Good stuff. I am sorry I don't read you every time. You are teaching/preaching to the choir as it were. I do subscribe because your heartfelt thoughts need to be shared with all (or as many as possible).
Thank you!
You are brave to engage with these short-sighted people who are so consumed with hate. It is a valuable exercise to see what the other side is thinking, but it is also demoralizing to see the state of the world. It must be emotionally taxing for you to do this. Maybe a few misguided souls will read what you wrote and change their opinion, but I don't have high hopes for that. These beliefs are rooted in a religious framework, and seem to be immune to reason.
I love all of the quotes you employ. I hope to read They Thought They Were Free soon. Thank you for your valuable work in this fight!
Based squared.
😹
Margaret, this was on Zerohedge this morning. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/beware-philanthropaths
Thank you so much for alerting me, Janet! I only wish they had included credit and a link to my Anatomy of a Philanthropath series (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-philanthropath-dreams) for context. I added a comment with links to the series, but it has to go through moderation.
If not familiar with Zerohedge, Tyler Darden is a name the writers there use to remain anonymous. I figured you would get on it. 😁👍🏻
Haha, thanks, Janet! Getting on ZeroHedge is like lightning striking because they have such a massive audience, so it is unfortunate the links weren't included (the author, Jim, should know better, since he posted the original series when it was first published 😆).
Ya,right, half jew my fuckin ass!!!