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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

“Narrative Believer” sounds better than “Idiot.”

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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

I could have a blast coming up with a few names for these people, but finding a non offensive one would prove to be challenging. These cupcakes get triggered over everything.

‘Fauci followers’

‘Science deniers”

“Pseudo Science Supporters”

“Kranky Karen’s” <--- ❤️

“Zombies”

“Living dead”

“Walking dead”

“Clueless Karens”

“2 Peter 2:16’s” <---very non offensive since they won’t ever look that up.

Actually, I take that back. Bible scripture offends them too. Probably why vampires hate crosses as well.

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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

How about the "I've made up my mind and that is that and I don't care to think any further, thank you" crowd?

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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

I had a t-shirt as a child with a donkey on it and a bubble caption above it’s head. It said:

“My minds made up, don’t confuse me with the facts!”

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Goes right along with the 2 Peter 2:16 narrative, now that I think about it. Lol

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Now I have an idea for a Custom T-shirt. I have a friend that makes custom T-shirts and hats.

I’m thinking about a Donkey getting a needle jab in his rear, while wearing a blue democrat ball cap on, saying “My mind’s made up, don’t confuse me with the facts.”

And then perhaps having a saying in the back of the shirt that says:

Don’t be a:

2 Peter 2:16 KJV

There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the ways of death.

Proverbs 14:12 KJV

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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

KJV uses the term “dumb ass” instead of “speechless donkey.” Haha! Perfect reference. Even a donkey could see the truth!

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Dec 12, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

- Critically thinking averse non-binary entity

- Monsieur Dumass (appeals to French Canadians)

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Dec 12, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

"Propaganda and Mind-Control Casualty" is IMO accurate, but probably even more difficult to get anyone to respond to a questionnaire (if so labeled).

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Start telling the truth---These people are incredibly naive and ignorant and a lot of them are just brainwashed and probably stupid. Time for calling these weaklings out as they are complicit in the crimes against the people whether they know it or not---- No wonder a lot of them are depressed, as it would be depressing to lack critical thought and be that stupid--FACTS

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In Greek mythology Cassandra is given the gift of prophecy but cursed because no one will believe her. In one version she warns the Trojans to beware of Greeks bearing gifts. Dealing with narrative believers is akin to being a Cassandra. Beware of governments bearing vaccines.

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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

Love this! Perhaps ‘The Cassandra Effect?’

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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

Interesting and pleasant exchange, but obviously CA's husband is cemented by the narrative. Two jabs and three bouts of Covid, and he still thinks the jabs are safe and effective? WOW.

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Dec 11, 2022·edited Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

Cognitively dissonant.

A Montrealer...

"CAH: There is a balance here. Each crisis has to be handled with wisdom. That’s where we need leaders of character and wisdom."

#TrudeaumustgoNOW 🆘️

#NoAmnesty 💔

#HavePityOnCA😉

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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

The other thing that bothered me was the shifting of CAH narrative. There was a seemingly appearance of personal responsibility but not really. Also, I was confused about his response to big harma liability. Is he implying that they should have no responsibility? Getting information from youtube also interesting

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Your repeated acknowledgment and appreciation of his perspective was so kind and respectful... and can serve as an example (speaking to myself here as much as anyone else) for all of us. I find it incredibly difficult to not get exasperated when someone is defending utter senselessness, which is pretty often these days (see exchange with CAH). You did it beautifully.

Thank you for the work you do.

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Dec 11, 2022·edited Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

Good to see a whole collection of irrefutable arguments against the genocide!

While I found the format ("challenge") a bit surprising, I understand that this way it is a documentation of specific people's responses, which also functions as interviews and reports on the current situation in a specific manner, making it all the more authentic.

During the last 32 months, everything has been pointing in the same direction and fit into a single frame, but somehow, quite a few people are unable or unwilling to see it.

When it all started, I tried on a muzzle for 10-15 seconds and decided that it was a submission/torture/toxic device, a direct attack on my life and on my existence as a human being. I decided that even if there was a "pandemic" that kills 98% of all people, I would prefer to take my chances, because I did NOT want to live the way the rulers had decided for me.

As opposed to what you suggest at the beginning in your excellent article, I preferred to believe my eyes, because it was MY decision about MY life.

Next, I saw that nobody was dropping like flies in the streets and in several months, starting with December, 2019, I never heard even a single cough in public. By August, 2020, I checked mortality rates in the US, Canada, Britain, Germany, Sweden, and Hungary, and FEWER-than-usual people were dying (despite the killings in hospitals and nursing homes). There was no "pandemic."

I found the official narrative despicable and obviously serving the globalist-technocrats' genocide/global control agenda. The propaganda was deafening and it was based on humiliation and intimidation, so it was hard to resist. I remember my wife and I being the only unmuzzled customers in stores most of the time; I shook hands with the six people who were not wearing a muzzle during that period and told them it was good to see some sanity left in a world gone insane.

Apart from the muzzles and the sooner-or-later-lethal injections, the "tests" were also direct attack on life: they humiliatingly and painfully poked deeply into the subject's nose within an inch from the fear center, collected DNA samples, installed nanotechnology (graphene oxide), and sometimes broke the blood-brain barrier, causing severe conditions and even deaths.

At this point, the damage has been done:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/still-thinking-about-the-vials

The psy-op is taking new steps:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-imprisoned-mind-from-fear-and

Can the injected be helped?

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/any-hope-for-the-injected-orfor-that

All eyes must focus on the globalists' ultimate weapon:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/circumventing-the-cbdc

The technocrats have at least one thing in common with the commoners:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-the-elite-and-the-unwashed-peasants

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Turdeau, just like Bidet, is a puppet. :)

Please, be patient as an author on Substack. You can expect one paying supporter after every 100 subscriber. I am a bit better off after seven and a half months, but I publish nearly every day, sometimes even two or three articles.

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Dec 18, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

I love your Stack, Ray. I am one of your free subscribers.

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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

What we're seeing is the acceptance within the general population that viruses and bacteria are the sole cause of disease. This appeals to the logical mind because it provides a specific enemy to focus on and simple specific measures that will mitigate the danger. The fact the model is horribly flawed doesn't matter as long as everyone believes it. Just yesterday I overheard a parent teaching their very young child this model and the consequences. The child was told not to ever touch and public surfaces, nor to get too close to anyone. If a surface was inadvertently touched, to wash her hands as soon as possible. If you believe the allopathic model this advice makes sense. It will drastically hinder the child's exploration of the world and inhibit greatly her interaction with other humans, but that is entirely the intent, is it not?

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Good insight. The people that are behind all of this have been working on this game plan for a really long time. After learning about Antoine Bechamp many years ago, and discovering the truth about what a fraud Louis Pasture was, I never bought into the germ theory model. The man injected poison into the brain of a dog, and when it started foaming at the mouth, and acting insane, and then collapsing over dead, Louis told us that the dog had a new disease called “Rabies” and then he went to work supposedly developing...wait for it...a VACCINE for it. The gullible bought into this foolishness, and flash forward today, guess who is forced to get a rabies vaccine? Everyone who doesn’t know better, and all pets that get taken to a Vet.

This germ theory was never even proven to be true.

Like so many other theories (gravity comes to mind), it’s accepted as a universal truth regardless.

This is why learning about history is so important. The truth can clearly be seen and understood merely by observing history.

An attempt was made to convince the common folk to stop drinking raw milk many years ago. They cooked up several false flag events, purposely poisoning milk, using it to make people sick, so they could then implement their Hegelian dialectic solution: Pasteurization

They were very clever about how they went about this. Instead of just injecting poison into the milk, they instead moved cows to the city, housed them next to breweries, and then kept them caged up inside warehouses and fed them only the spent grain from the breweries. The milk wasn’t even white since it was coming from sickly cows, so they would add agents to it to make it white. Chalk was one of the things they would use. The people buying this crap started getting sick from drinking it, and the germ theory was put into peoples heads through the newspapers. Ohh gotta love the media. Always a mouthpiece for the wicked. Anyway, Once people started becoming alarmed over this issue, they rolled out their Hegelian dialectic solution: PASTEURIZATION

Even though people had been drinking raw milk for thousands of years without incident all over the world, they managed to con everyone. Why did they do this though? Simple. They were using their shill Pasteur to establish Germ Theory in the minds of men, while at the same time, preventing people from consuming a very nutritious substance. Once milk has been cooked, it becomes a lifeless, dead substance and looses most of it’s nutrition.

Once they accomplished this successfully, they moved onto getting Crisco and margarine into everyone’s diet, and demonizing healthy fats like butter, tallow, etc...

Flash forward to today and they’ve bastardized our entire food supply, and diseases once unknown to man are now commonplace.

Can’t sit down at ihop and actually get real Maple syrup with your pancakes. But they have 15 different flavors of fake syrup all made from GMO High fructose corn sweetened syrups. And forget about getting real butter on anything…but you can get “ I can’t believe it’s not butter“ on your toast!

They’ve been working just as hard at poisoning the air and water too.

The elites didn’t just start talking about depopulation, they’ve been silently scheming all along.

Poisoning the air, water, and food was always in the works.

The hard part was just convincing the public that fluoride is good for them, and chemtrails are really just condensation trails. And that GMO soybean oil is superior to butter and coconut oil. Start calling Rapeseed oil, Canola oil so nobody figures out that it’s toxic to human beings.

Preach the message that

Vaccines are good for you!!! Don’t pay attention to the mercury in them. Do as your told. You can’t enroll your kids in public indoctrination, err, I mean..public schools unless they’ve had their shots!!!

Do it for the community, for granny!

Anyone who can’t see what’s going on, won’t be with us for very much longer. The people behind all of this are anti-life, anti-freedom, and antichrist.

There are many secret societies in the world today, but one that rules them all. I’ll give ya a hint. The Bible reveals the truth in Revelation 17.

She is known as BABYLON THE GREAT, MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH

Revelation 17:9 (KJV) And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Revelation 17:18 (KJV) And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

VATICAN CITY, ROME

Roman Catholicism, the Papacy and its

Society of Jesus aka the Jesuit Order.

If people understood this, everything going on around them in the world today would make more sense.

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Dec 11, 2022·edited Dec 16, 2022

Right on the money, Brother! And the whore of Babylon is not only called that, but also, the Beast. That's why the Mark in the forehead or in the hand (the QR Code) is called "the Mark of the Beast". The final prophecies are being fulfilled to a capital "T" right in front of our faces, but most people will still deny it, even when they roll out the requirement for the "Mark". THE antichrist will soon come on the scene, and most people will believe he's "Jesus the Christ". He'll tell us, "Get that QR code tattooed into your forehead or your hand (or close to one or the other of them, such as on the arm or wrist), because "it's for the 'good' of all humankind". NOT!!!!! Most people are followers of the WRONG way(s), and think not being such followers is "aberrant". Why? Because of Satan. We've been surrounded all of our lives, and indoctrinated, conditioned, programmed and brainwashed by it, that all of the "false gods" (belief systems, etc.) all around us are "normal", and that the way the world and society operates all around us is "normal", and even "preferable" to God the Father through Jesus the Christ, the ONLY Way to the One and Only TRUE God (John 14:6)!

My point is, almost everything around us is evil disguised as "good". "Whatever is not of faith, is sin (or evil)", and it is NOT normal! Roman 14:23. Satan and his minions have made certain that we can't get away from all of these representations of faithlessness in God, because they surround us almost everywhere, as well as the poisons and many things deleterious to our health and well being. I can't even go up into the major park where I live without, within five minutes or less of sitting down on a bench, being bitten by something [probably including genetically modified (GM) insects spreading and infecting us with more viruses than our immune systems can handle]. It's not only about making us diseased and killing us, but about distracting us from the TRUTH at every turn, and making certain we take part in things like banking, and restaurant menus full of poisons, etc., that distract us from God and make us less and less able to see and/or accept the TRUTH and truly, fully and completely turn to, and ONLY depend upon, God. It's worked, just as the evil powers-that-be designed, but you can't tell most people these TRUTHS because they will only see them as "fanaticism", etc., also just as designed by the evil powers-that-be.

Everything around everybody is "normal", though it's NOT. "Casual sex" is supposedly "normal", even though it's the exact opposite of God's Will. "Homosexuality is "normal" and "completely acceptable". Sodomy is supposedly "perfectly 'okay'". Nevermind the proven factual history that God destroyed two entire cities for it and other perversions (lusting after and wanting to have sex with the angels who appeared to Lot and his family, and for having sex with children). That's (supposedly) just a "myth", etc. Next, sexually molesting children will be considered "normal", as it already is with more and more demonic people. The only good side of all this is that it means Jesus the Christ will return sooner to bring an end to all of this madness and evil, and all of the manifold suffering. But not before all hell has to be allowed to break out on Earth in order to drive more and more people to truly, fully and completely turn to and have their characters transformed by the One and ONLY True God and Jesus the Christ whom He sent. Not to drive them to organized, COUNTERFEIT "Christianity" or other false religion(s), which most "Christianity" and other religions are, although there will of course be those who do only turn to false, counterfeit religion; as, obviously, there already are, and is in the majority. We're being allowed to be driven to our knees in order to separate between those who will ONLY AND TRULY turn their souls to God the Father through Jesus the Christ, and those who will bow to Satan and his many false belief systems, "rulers" and doctrines, including government doctrines to submit to the false "saviors", Satan's minions such as the antichrist, and to evil false government "requirements", such as the Mark of the Beast.

"...(A)s for me and my house, we will serve (NOTHING BUT) the Lord (God the Father through Jesus the Christ)..."! Joshua 24:15. What about you who are reading this who don't already know these REAL TRUTHS? "...(C)hoose (today) whom you will serve (Satan, or God)..."! Id.

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Just read your comment. It reminds me of something I would say. I feel and think the same way. I utterly despise liars and deceivers, and the more I learn, the more I see how we all have been deceived. I’ve always believed in Jesus, but never made Him Lord of my life on a regular basis. I’m a fool for that, as I know better, and can clearly see the world heading straight off a cliff to its own destruction. Now I’m more focused on getting my own house in order, and being a watchmen for those who still have ears to hear. The strong delusion mentioned in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 is on my mind daily, and I can’t help but think we are living through it now.

Margaret Ann Alice is an amazing woman, and if she can’t even get the zombies to engage with her in a civil Q & A, that should really reveal to all of us just how far gone these people are.

I haven’t even commented in detail as to what I feel is going on, because this it would be too far off topic for this Substack. Perhaps I will finally stop being lazy, and find some time to start writing for myself. Anyway…

Here is 2 Thessalonians 2 for anyone who is curious as to what I’m referring to:

Strong delusion

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 (KJV) 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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Dec 11, 2022·edited Dec 11, 2022

AMEN!!!!! I think about the "strong delusion to believe a lie" often as well. God, who is not at all constrained by time ("a day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as a day" to Him), knows ahead of time who will Truly, Fully and Completely repent, and who will not; so, since He knows who will never repent, even though He still gives them every chance to repent, sends them strong delusions to believe lies. On the other hand, those He knows are true of heart and are much more likely to Truly, Fully and Completely repent, he sends His Holy Spirit, and gives them the Gift of Discernment, so they are more and more likely to completely choose the narrow path rather than the wide way of lies disguised as "truth" and "normal(ity)", in spite of the persecution that they WILL, WITHOUT FAIL, suffer for not fitting in with the evil, vile "world" and its adherents. "Many are called, but few are (most are not) chosen." So, most people are hopeless, even though we have the duty to still try to wake them up to the "narrow Way, ...Truth and ...Life", God the Father through Jesus the Christ. (Again, John 14:6.)

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Dec 12, 2022·edited Dec 12, 2022

We've been conditioned since we were knee high to grasshoppers that one way can't be the only way, or one Person can't be the only way. I had a problem with that back in 1979 or before, but then I read One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest and a little known book by Steinbeck, To A God Unknown, and they both woke me up to the fact that OF COURSE God's Son, Jesus the Christ, could be and is the only way to God, with the latter coming later when I read John 14:6 and began studying God's Word(s) in-depth! It was an epiphany moment. [Both books had "'Christ' figures" who died to save others, the two being McMurphy and I don't recall what the name of that character was in the latter book; and both books were written by alleged atheists; so, two "non-Christian" books opened me up to the truth of Jesus the Christ, or prepared the way for it (I can see now that I was led by God, to Him, step by step).]

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Dec 13, 2022·edited Dec 16, 2022

How's that hymn go? "...Nearer, my God, to Thee..."? I haven't been to a church in many years, so I haven't sung from a hymnal in that long. I no longer believe in attending church, because I don't believe in ANY organized "Christianity" anymore, and because it's ALL nothing but hypocritical, counterfeit "Christianity". In addition, True Christians are so few and far between, that it hit me, "Why would I want to continue to fellowship with evil, nothing-but-hypocritical-and-counterfeit people, who only worship Satan in the guise of Jesus the Christ? It would be hypocritical of me." So, I ended it and have never regretted it whatsoever. When I continued to attend, I was also compromising with evil; thus, I had to stop. I talk to God every day, and I often thank Him for EVERYTHING, even the sufferings of my serious physical disabilities---Lyme Disease and chronic immune deficiency---and I don't need to go to church, to some building, to do that, buildings, or churches, that really, in-truth only worship Satan in the guise of "Jesus", and where everyone thereat is nothing but deceived that they worship Jesus and are "saved", when they don't even have ANY True Salvation (yet?) whatsoever. That's how much I see through counterfeit, so-called "Christianity". If you don't recognize those things, please pray to God for His Gift of Discernment, or just plain discernment, believe He'll give it to you, and wake up even more than you thought you could. Your eyes will be opened as never before.

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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

CA's husband will see more and more of these vax injured as they are starting to get more courage https://rumble.com/v1z8h5q-govt-criminally-ignoring-vax-injured-living-in-hell-on-earth.html

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As long as he doesn't see them or hear them on CBC or at church?

It didn't happen.

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This is great and I am so pleased you did get this feedback. It pretty much consistent with the conversations I have personally led with the proponents of the current narrative.

And thank you for the shout out and allowing me to share your post!

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Dec 11, 2022·edited Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

He started to realize that 2 shots and then 3 COVID infections pretty much says it all…

…it was then that he “ran out of time”

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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

Excellent work. I'm wondering why his wife didn't take Vitamin D? There seems to be a lot more evidence for it than for Vitamin C. Also, she seems a bit young for the ICU. Did she have comorbidities?

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Thankful that CAH took the time to respond as best he could. It takes some courage to have your beliefs questioned and he exhibited more courage than most of my closest friends I’ve known for decades which won’t even peek at a link or an email I send them let alone expose themselves to sharp questions backed up by stats.

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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

First, I confess I did not read the entire article. In fact, I could not get past the first couple of questions. Why? Because the way the discussion seems to have progressed (based on the linearly written presentation), I would conclude that CAH would quickly decide he's under attack, not in a discussion.

That's based on my personal experience trying to persuade folks to change their mind over my (long) lifetime. It simply doesn't work effectively.

To persuade someone, I have to address their specific replies, one at a time, slowly... 1-2 facts per reply. I have to probe to get them to provide more information on the foundation of their beliefs before pushing really hard with the data you have. I found that asking "why?" and "what would you say about this?" works for one specific item at a time.

I have never seen deeply held beliefs changed in any other way than above... slowly, with patience, details provided a little at a time. I would be surprised if the "firehose" data transmission strategy were effective.

Just my experience. YMMV. We *do* need the discussions!

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I appreciate your input, James, and I do employ your approach when engaging in an in-person dialogue or situation where we have an opportunity for back-and-forthing.

Unfortunately, I did not have the ability to do that in this case because I was simply responding to a single comment in which he shared his responses to the first 10 questions. It is much more difficult to have that kind of organic exchange in written format, particularly when there is a time delay like in the posting of comments. I did not expect him to engage further because he had already said he didn’t have time to answer the remaining questions, so I just made do with what I had to work with.

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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

I can empathize with your response. It sounds like you have found a way to converse with those who have differing opinions. The videos on this website (especially The Hotel of Knowledge) have been really helpful for me to understand why these conversations have been so difficult and ineffective. Maybe they will be helpful someone else as well?

https://reachingpeople.net/presentations/

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I started an article intended to share lessons from Reaching People ages ago but haven’t had a chance to watch their videos yet. I found Tess’s talk with David Charalambous highly illuminating, though:

https://drtesslawrie.substack.com/p/tess-talks-with-david-charalambous

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"Narrative believer." Pretty mild and polite for the harm all of these morons did to society.

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Okay, but let's make distinctions. Many of the morons were essentially subjects, nudged into partipating in a few tyranny-of-the-majority moves, with some of these (mandates) being more morally serious than others, such that morons who didn't join all the crusades deserve some credit; and other folks were the leaders, many of this set morons in your sense , but with a more select group of them knowing quite a bit of the obscenely cynical rationale for the Operation; and finally, there were the top-dogs, who deserve to be tried and in some cases executed.

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couldn't agree more, on

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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

Imagine still believing in the possibility of "good leaders", Santa Claus, or the Tooth Fairy past the age of 30 or so. I was one of the slow ones, I didn't start waking up to the inherent evils of governments until my 40s. There may be hope for this guy, particularly since his wife is awake.

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I found this almost as frustrating as having live conversations. Changing the subject constantly and never really backing up his arguments. just nonsense and lazy thinking.

Good on CA for staying married though. I wouldn't have been able to!

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Dec 11, 2022Liked by Margaret Anna Alice

Instinct is important.

Who would eat food from unknown sources given to them by strangers?

Our primitive ancestors must have been quite cautious when it came to eating nuts, berries, and mushrooms, which is why we are here today.

"Think of it as poison until you know it's safe." This is what instinct says.

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